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Re: Assignment 4
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2019, 12:32:27 AM »
I would disagree with the article.
For one, we have been doing education and fire prevention for years now, so that’s nothing new We have also known that the  burning of wood, plastics, furniture, electronics and other building materials releases hazardous substances such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons that with proper use of your PPE and SCBA can greatly reduce the risk for exposer. Where we need to get better is after the event with decon, equipment and self and I believe we’ve made great strides in doing so.
Also, listen to the 911 call from the lady in Florida who latterly burned to death because the fire department would not enter the house. I wouldn’t assume that everyone is dead just because you have smoke and fire on your arrival. That’s just asking for trouble.
And last, holding home/business owner accountable for fires is silly, especially when a majority of them are undetermined cause. Good luck with that in court.
Kevin Stevens

Kevin I agree with you that in general the fire service should be doing a much better job with decon of our equipment and ourselves.  This definitely is a realistic process that can be accomplished.  Doing a gross decon on scene and a more thorough job once we are back at the station.  I agree with the author that just using wet wipes to decon yourself isn't enough.   

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Re: Assignment 4
« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2019, 12:51:26 AM »
I can't agree with this article in its entirety. The author does make some good points about trying to prevent occupational cancer. This is a real concern with our job and it should be taken seriously. We as an organization should be doing everything we can to help prevent contamination when possible. However the reality of our job is at times we are asked to do things we know will place us in danger, either immediate due to obvious hazards or long term due to higher cancer rates. To say we should never go interior unless we have an absolute rescue is taking things to the extreme in my opinion. We train to know our "enemy". If we learn building construction, fire behavior, and train on transitional attacks then we can apply our knowledge and make an educated decision on the fire ground. Anytime someone takes a radical approach to something in the fire service and says "never" or "always" I think we all need to look into it deeper. Our job, in my opinion, is a hard job to use works like "always" and "never" because of the fluid problems we face.

Sam your point on using our training and the "new" findings from NIST and UL has made us smarter. I think we have started reducing our exposures by using survivability profiles and not rushing in headlong.  I think it obvious to anyone who has kept up to date with the research that structure fires burn almost twice as hot and produce toxins from mostly synthetic materials.  You are right with using good decision making in fluid and dynamic situations.


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